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我感覺結構怪怪的英文句子,逗點後不是不能接that嗎?

However I think there's no exact rule, that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels is the more comfortable way to say something.

我覺得這句的結構怪怪的

逗點後面不是不能用 ''that'' 嗎?

Many thanks.

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Hi, 心星大大

關係代名詞???

我記得逗點關代不能用''THAT''

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  • 心星
    Lv 6
    1 0 年前
    最佳解答

    that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels is the more comfortable way to say something.

    以句子結構來說,這裡的關係代名詞that是用來帶出 that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels 整個子句做名詞子句,並以這整個名詞子句作"that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels is the more comfortable way to say something. "這個句子的主詞(Subject),它的動詞(Verb)是 "is",而"the more comfortable way to say something"是它的主詞補語(Subject Complement)。

  • 1 0 年前

    看到這個句子時 要判定他的文法錯誤之前 要先了解他的意思

    也就是決定that是做什麼用的 你說的that前面不能是逗點的文法

    是說 要接一個子句時 若子句前面有逗點 那就不能用that來當作關係代名詞

    先有這個觀念再來解決這句的問題又簡單多了

    這句翻成中文的意思是 (p.s.看到子句要先翻子句)

    把他確實的歸結到一個日本人所感受到的態度 就會是一個比較容易(舒服)的方法來說點什麼東西 然而 我認為這是沒有確切的規則的

    that 所引導的 (it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels)這個句子是 ( is the more comfortable way to say something.)的主詞

    再來 看到前面那一句 there's no exact rule, 這一句有沒有發現到他沒有很明白的表達出到底是什麼XX沒有 exact rule 而這個XX就是後面那一長串子句 that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels is the more comfortable way to say something

    把他導正變成 That it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels

    is the more comfortable way to say something, however, I think there is no exact rule (to that matter).

    不知道你明白了嗎^^

    2007-05-17 20:44:09 補充:

    之後我整理出一個文法

    that當作形容詞子句的關係代名詞時 前面不能有逗點

    當名詞子句的關係代名詞時 前面可以有逗點

    參考資料: 自己, 自己
  • 1 0 年前

    Hi, Kevin大大, 原句的確是沒有加AND的

    Adam大大, 你說 that是名詞子句的連接詞

    是指作think的受詞(I think) that it actually comes down....

    還是作做rule的同位語呢?

    2007-05-16 18:37:41 補充:

    那裡的話^_^隨時歡迎

    MY PLEASURE

  • Kevin
    Lv 7
    1 0 年前

    Hi Master Adam,

    According to 心星大大 and you, the complete sentence would be:

    However I think there's no exact rule, AND [that it actually comes down to the way a Japanese feels] is the more comfortable way to say something.

    2007-05-15 15:08:06 補充:

    What confused me is the meaning of the sentence in a structure like this.

    Can you translate it into Chinese?

    2007-05-15 15:23:52 補充:

    Actually I consider the sentence as:

    However I think there's no exact rule that it actually comes down to [THAT the way a Japanese feels is the more comfortable way to say something].

    2007-05-15 15:40:57 補充:

    The first "that," as a conjunction, leads an adverbial clause, while the second one, also as a conjunction though omitted, leads a noun clause as the object of the phrase [to come down to].

    然而我認為並無固定的規則可循, 所以結果就變成"以日本人的方式來說話才是比較輕鬆自在的方式".

    2007-05-15 15:47:53 補充:

    The following is the original post:

    http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:2jIfrzzrFmUJ:f...

    2007-05-15 23:33:30 補充:

    Hi Kenny,

    我知道原句是沒有加AND, 我只是把個人的解讀方式寫出.

    2007-05-15 23:33:55 補充:

    幾個問題請教Adam大師:

    1.在下所解讀的方式在文法及語意上有何不妥之處?

    (個人是對於"[that]引導名詞子句當[to]的受詞"有些疑慮)

    2.可否勞煩大師把後半段的意思也翻譯出來, 以解在下之疑惑.

    2007-05-15 23:34:13 補充:

    3.Adam大師對前半段的解讀是:

    (1)However, I think, there's no exact rule,...

    or

    (2)However I think (that) there's no exact rule,...

    的哪一種呢?

    2007-05-15 23:34:47 補充:

    4.關於however的詞性, 字典上的說法:

    (1)Adverb:

    We will allow you to travel however you please.

    However he did it, it was very clever.

    Victory, however it was brought about, was sweet.

    However he did it, it was very clever.

    2007-05-15 23:35:49 補充:

    (2)Conj:

    Arrange your hours however you like.

    Dress however you like.

    I will help however I can.

    似乎與大師所言有出入.

    2007-05-15 23:38:51 補充:

    個人感覺似乎不容易判斷.

    2007-05-16 09:44:41 補充:

    感謝Adam大師, 在下對您解讀的"文法結構", 在您點出"however並非轉折語"後就已經明白了. 只是想瞭解個人原先的解讀方式所得到的"語意"是否與您的有太大出入. 看來是大同小異了.

    2007-05-16 09:45:16 補充:

    至於我所說的"詞性有出入", 指的是我所列出歸屬副詞的例子, 其結構幾乎與本題句子的基本架構是相同的:

    我舉的adv:

    However he did it, it was very clever.

    您說的conj:

    However you look at it, it was a wicked thing to do.

    不是嗎?

    2007-05-16 17:52:06 補充:

    感謝大師開導, 受益良多.

    也謝謝Kenny提供的題目. 佔您的版問東問西, 尚請包涵. ^_^

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  • Adam
    Lv 7
    1 0 年前

    that 為關係代名詞引導形容詞子句時,它的前面是不能有逗點,也就是<<< 先行詞跟 that >>> 之間不可以有逗點分隔。

    kenny 大的這個例句裡的 that 本身並非關代,它是引導名詞子句的連接詞,故它不會有先行詞(因為不是形容詞子句),當然也就不會有逗點可不可以加的問題了。

    心星大大的句子架構解釋的很清楚,that 的確是引導名詞子句當主詞沒錯,只不過不要將它當關係代名詞會好解釋些。

    2007-05-15 16:10:31 補充:

    Kevin大,你可能一開始的 however 搞錯了,所以造成後面句子結構的誤判。

    1. however 在此句中並非轉折語,它不是個副詞,而是個引導副詞子句的連接詞:

    No matter how I think . . . 不管我怎樣(如何)地不認為有確切的規則可循

    2. 承接上句,才有可能推出後半句為主要子句,是不需要加上 and 的:

    That 所引導的到 feels 為止是名詞子句當主詞,is 是它的動詞,餘如心星大大所說的,已經很清楚了。

    2007-05-15 16:11:59 補充:

    However 在此句中等於 No matter how 的意思:

    No matter how (hard) I tried to persuade him, he wouldn't listen.

    However (hard) I tried to persuade him, he wouldn't listen.

    2007-05-16 08:30:03 補充:

    however 是連接詞,與我的解釋並沒有出入,你在字典上所找的例句皆是放在句尾,不代表它不可以放在句首(副詞子句的屬性基本上是放句首句尾皆可的):

    However you look at it, it was a wicked thing to do. (這是Longman的例句)

    我之前給的例句也是如此。

    所以我對前半句的解讀是你上面所寫的第二個:

    However I think (that) there's no exact rule.

    我不覺得跟字典上所寫的有什麼出入耶。還是你誤解了我的意思?

    2007-05-16 08:36:37 補充:

    此外Kenny 大所問的,that 引導名詞子句時它只有連接詞的功能,並沒有名詞的屬性,所以它既不可以是主詞,也不會是受詞;而且它也不會是 rule 的同位語,因為同位語也不可能會是另一個句子的主詞。

    that 只是一個很單純引導名詞子句,而這整個名詞子句是當作主要子句的主詞罷了:

    However S + V (副詞子句,此副詞子句中還有一個名詞子句 there's no exact rule), 主要子句 (此主要子句主詞為 "that . . . feels",動詞為 is).

    這句話的基本架構就是如此,不要想太複雜了。我可以照樣寫出更多這樣的句子來:

    2007-05-16 08:44:48 補充:

    However I tried to believe (that) he didn't do it, that he lied is a fact.

    However they convince me that I shall fail, that it must be done is non-negotiable.

    . . . . 都是依照原句的結構對照下寫的.

    2007-05-16 08:50:17 補充:

    至於 Kevin 大要求這句話的翻譯,我不逐字翻,我把大意說一下就好了:

    僅管我不認為(不管是如何地來看待)有明確規範告訴你要怎麼表達某一件事,不過終歸還是顧慮到日本人的感受來說是比較適切妥貼的吧。

    OR:

    不管我是怎樣認為沒有一定的規則可循,事實上按照日本人的感受來應答是比較讓人感到自在的方式吧。

    總的來說就是,(舊日本人說話的方式來看)寫作者感覺是沒有特定規則,但實際上還是有某一種依循的慣例或常規可以參考(儘管不明確)。

    我是指把意思說一下啦,不見得符合全部的原文。

    2007-05-16 11:01:13 補充:

    儘管分成副詞(除了轉折語是很明顯的副詞不考慮之外)跟連結詞,若它的架構是一樣的,我就覺得沒有必要以單一字眼來做區分詞,而以句法的角度來詮釋:

    however 後既然有主詞動詞的結構,我仍傾向將它視之為連接詞,或至少它引導的是副詞子句,否則如何去解釋這主詞動詞的架構是怎麼來的?視作連接詞應該是更清楚易懂的吧。

    故我個人是覺得沒有必要再去細究這個問題。

    就像 whatever 好了,它是代名詞,也可以說是限定詞,可是它能連接(副詞/名詞)子句啊,所以你要說它是連接詞也無妨吧,再去細究也沒有必要,徒增困擾罷了。

    2007-05-16 11:06:12 補充:

    總之,我的觀念是,我看它是出現在什麼樣的場合來解釋它是什麼樣的詞性(從句子的角度而非單字的)。

    就像我會說 what 是代名詞,如 What do you want?

    可是儘管字典沒有說 what 是連接詞(whatever 也是如此),

    可是這樣的句子 I don't know what you want.

    我仍會將 what 解釋成連接詞。

    我用來解釋這句話的 however 也是一樣的道理。

    再更簡單一點來說,就是:

    however (單字)詞性屬副詞,(句法)功能屬連接詞。

    (英文的連接詞其實也都是本身也含有副詞或名詞的詞性,但在功能上它還是用來接句子的)

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