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/sp/ /st/ /sk/ 發音??

第一 我知同一音節(重音標在S前) 要音變 sb sd sg

第二 我知不同音節 (重音標在S後)不用音變

但是...

sister呢?

hamster呢?

lobster呢?

有算同一個音節嗎?

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哇...好多人發表意見哦! 但.......說的太深了啦....什麼phonetics & phonology 厚..害我剛還去翻我10幾年前的Linguistics..哈哈...全都不記得什麼和什麼了..! 我只是要解答我們家小孩的問題而已啦...提到.phonetics, phonology, phonemes...如果再說什麼p 帶 h 的.小朋友可能會更目傻傻了!

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哈哈! .所以囉! 什麼什麼"學"的..留給研究語言學語音學的學者去探討吧! 我早就還光光了.我們只要生活上talk talk就好囉......別那麼嚴肅咩..我會怕怕! 好咩...好咩...倫家沒變嘛.....只是 /p/ /t/ /k/ "sound just like" /b/ /d/ /g/.......they've never been changed .....ha ha

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  • Elisa
    Lv 7
    1 0 年前
    最佳解答

    Voiceless stops (/p/, /t/, /k/) at the beginning of a stressed syllable (but not after /s/) are aspirated (do not change), whereas after /s/ they are not aspirated (do change).

    For example:

    Not aspirated - Change

    In’stall /sd/

    Under’stand /sd/

    Aspirated - No Change

    ‘Sister /st/

    ‘Hamster /st/

    ‘Lobster /st/ .

    2008-09-11 09:22:38 補充:

    重音節在/s/之前,不變音

    =>

    ‘SiSter /st/

    ‘HamSter /st/

    ‘SiniSter /st/

    重音節在/s/之後,變音

    =>

    In’Stall /sd/

    Under’Stood /sd/

    ‘Stamp /sd/

    ‘Skunk /sg/

    2008-09-12 00:18:03 補充:

    Eleven is right.

    Other examples:

    Spin /sb/

    Stops /sd ps/

    2008-09-12 20:04:57 補充:

    The /t/ in top is pronounced with aspiration. This is a short puff of air that accompanies the pronunciation of this sound. (If you hold your hand in front of your mouth when you say the sound, you’ll feel the puff or air).The symbol for the aspirated t is [th] (the little h represents aspiration).

    2008-09-12 20:05:49 補充:

    The /t/ in stop and pot are pronounced without aspiration. The symbol

    for this sound is [t], which pronounced like /d/.

    2008-09-12 20:06:21 補充:

    The most common stops in the languages of world are voiceless /p t k/, which often

    have voiced counterparts, /b d g/. The difference between the two can be felt on the

    pharynx, which vibrates when the voiced but not the voiceless sounds are produced.

    2008-09-12 20:06:47 補充:

    http://people.umass.edu/florian/201/201s07Lec03_Ph...

    http://www.cas.unt.edu/~./leubank/chapter.two.pdfh...

    2008-09-12 20:07:42 補充:

    For your information:

    In English, the letter `t' (likewise `p' and `k') is usually aspirated when appearing in syllable-initial position; in many European (and other) languages it is not. To speakers of English, an unaspirated `t' sounds much like `d';

    2008-09-12 20:08:14 補充:

    http://www.everything2.com/e2node/A%2520secret%252...

    2008-09-22 05:50:17 補充:

    By the way, I found this article from Mike MacMahon, Professor of Phonetics at Glasgow University

    [t] or [d]?

    If you say a word like STOP, you'll produce a [t] which is very close to the French one - compare it with TOP.

    2008-09-22 05:51:03 補充:

    However, the sound of the 's' can obscure, for many people, the precise sound of the [t] in words like STOP. The solution is to emphasize that the tonguing sound should be more like a [d].

    2008-09-22 05:51:22 補充:

    Try saying STOP as if it were SDOP, and you'll be producing something closer to the 'right' sort of sound, but it's still not correct.

    http://www.larrykrantz.com/mike.htm

    2008-09-22 05:52:09 補充:

    Click on the icon to listen the pronunciation of stop.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stop

    Listen to the pronunciation of star

    http://evaeaston.com/pr/sl-pr-gh03.html

    Listen to the pronunciation of spider

    http://evaeaston.com/pr/sl-pr-b01.html

    2008-09-22 05:53:13 補充:

    Anyway, it is interesting to learn all this and thanks to the input from Morisent and Sue0933.

    參考資料: Myself. Went abroad at age 11. With 32 years experience speaking and writing English. Tutored English as an Undergrad. A project manager in the US since 1992.
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  • 1 0 年前

    Well, if we don't be too particular, why we are researching "linguistics and phonetics?" you tell me. did he/she ask you to take " 中間值"? I can't find out where he/she said that. And your example is ridiculous.

    2008-09-21 14:38:32 補充:

    because that is about chinese phonological alternation, in Chinese it can be changed, but english. Understand?

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  • 1 0 年前

    那請問morisent

    就算音像,那我到底要怎麼唸才好?= =

    你叫我取中間值,也太難了吧,你以為每個人嘴巴都這麼伶俐喔

    就像中文,"破" 這字你要怎唸? 還有"伯"

    如果你唸成ㄆㄛˋ跟ㄅㄛˊ的唸法就太奇怪了吧,可是正確來說是那樣

    這就是大家才會叫我們要變,其實這不太算錯

    只是發音習慣問題,如果過於鑽牛角尖,這樣研究linguistics跟phonetics有什麼有趣呢

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  • 1 0 年前

    KK音標中 / sp /、/ st /、/ sk / 當在同一個音節時,必須分別改唸成 / sb /、/ sd /、/ sg /,但若不在同一音節,則照音標唸而不需改唸。

    由於 / s / 和 / p /、/ t /、/ k / 連唸時都會聽到清晰的 / s /音,說明 / sp /、/ st /、/ sk / 均非連音,因此分音節時 / sp /、/ st /、/ sk / 均不會分在同一音節,因此通常也就不需改唸成 / sb /、/ sd /、/ sg /。

    但當 / sp /、/ st /、/ sk / 出現在字首時,由於 / s / 和 / p /、/ t /、/ k / 只能分在同一音節,因此就必須改唸成/ sb /、/ sd /、/ sg /。另外當不在字首時,查字典看到這些音標,要注意重(次重)音符號的位置,正常時應該在兩個音標之間,因為它們不是連音,不會分在同一音節,因此不需改唸,如 prosperity;倘若重(次重)音符號的位置前移至 / s / 前,表示此時這兩個音標要分在同一音節,故必須改唸,如 registration。

    2008-09-13 11:41:41 補充:

    所以你問的三個字都不需改變唸法。

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  • MB.WPG
    Lv 5
    1 0 年前

    好奇的問一句,你們到底有沒有學過phonetics & phonology?

    two different phonemes can not be changed into the same phoneme. Once [p] and [b] are different phonemes, how come [p] sound can become [b] sound?

    2008-09-12 12:47:45 補充:

    [p,t,k] all have three different sounds, but the phonemes of three consonents are still not changed.

    Their phonemes are still the same.

    2008-09-12 12:48:02 補充:

    The difference in this three sounds is depending on the ASPIRATION; therefore, [p] "ONLY SOUNDS" like [b]. It indeed still goes with [p] bilabial, voiceless, stop.......it never becomes[b] sound.

    2008-09-12 13:02:15 補充:

    如果你想知道[ptk]的三種發音的話,請找一個真正學過"發音學"的人,不是kk英標喔,發給你聽

    基本上,如[p]的音

    一般發音是發短音[p],很短暫,這個的發音位置,是當[p]在字尾

    另一個是[p]帶h的音,一般是在字首

    最後一個就是你的問題,跟著子音一起,如sp...,它的發音方式,是一種噴氣的爆發音,比我剛說的第一種更短,它聽起來,會有一點點接近[b]的音,不過,它不是發[b],還是發[p]音,這是發聲方式的不同......並不是"變音"...........記著一點,無聲永遠是無聲,有聲永遠是有聲子音,不會無聲變有聲

    2008-09-12 13:08:52 補充:

    幾乎所有在教kk英標的老師,都會以"重音"的原因,告訴你音要變..............無耐,這跟重音沒有關係,甚至我以前的英文老師也是這樣跟我說,一直到我學了phonetics之後,才發現以前學的都是錯的

    2008-09-12 13:14:25 補充:

    所以,請不要再說[p]會變[b]了,只是"音像"而已....................也許我說的太深了

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  • 1 0 年前

    安安

    針對你的問題回答

    如果你查字典,可以發現

    sis‧ter 兩個音節,第一音節是sis,第二音節是ter

    所以,s後面的t不用變音 [ t to d ]

    請聽:http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?si...

    一樣查字典

    可以得知

    ham‧ster

    重音在第一音節,ster是第二音節,而不用變音

    請聽:http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ha...

    至於lobster查字典可以知道

    lob‧ster兩個音節

    t 一樣發音 t 氣音

    請聽:http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?lo...

    以上回答提供參考

    祝身體健康 天天開心

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  • eleven
    Lv 5
    1 0 年前

    其實語言是有多樣性的,

    發音法並非一成不變,

    多聽外國人怎麼唸,

    找出自己覺得較好聽的學吧!

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  • 匿名使用者
    1 0 年前

    Elisa啊...饒了別人吧

    他可能看不懂英文...你又用英文解說

    ...

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